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DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.20 16:03:00 -
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Lol.
I'd like to say that this guy wasn't playing the objective at all. I was on the roof. Cool. I was also taking out dropships, 3 tanks, LAVs and defending both outside objectives. Without me there, tanks would have been all over and their guys would be on the roof. Tell me. Who would you rather on the roof?
My issue with you is I would kill the hacker of the objective with you right there. No one else was ever around. Did you ever counter hack? No. That happened three times. We lost by a few ticks and we had a 50 clone lead. If you had counter hacked, we would have won the game.
Nothing pisses me off more than losing because of teammates being idiots. Either PTFO or play Ambush. |
DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.20 16:18:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:DS 10 wrote:Lol.
I'd like to say that this guy wasn't playing the objective at all. I was on the roof. Cool. I was also taking out dropships, 3 tanks, LAVs and defending both outside objectives. Without me there, tanks would have been all over and their guys would be on the roof. Tell me. Who would you rather on the roof?
My issue with you is I would kill the hacker of the objective with you right there. No one else was ever around. Did you ever counter hack? No. That happened three times. We lost by a few ticks and we had a 50 clone lead. If you had counter hacked, we would have won the game.
Nothing pisses me off more than losing because of teammates being idiots. Either PTFO or play Ambush. But... but... there's no points in counter-hacking, man! Clearly it's not an action with any tactical significance if it don't award you no points. No points, no point.
I forgot to mention that! As soon as the objective went red, OP hacked. All. Three. Times. |
DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.20 16:36:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DS 10 wrote:Poplo Furuya wrote:DS 10 wrote:Lol.
I'd like to say that this guy wasn't playing the objective at all. I was on the roof. Cool. I was also taking out dropships, 3 tanks, LAVs and defending both outside objectives. Without me there, tanks would have been all over and their guys would be on the roof. Tell me. Who would you rather on the roof?
My issue with you is I would kill the hacker of the objective with you right there. No one else was ever around. Did you ever counter hack? No. That happened three times. We lost by a few ticks and we had a 50 clone lead. If you had counter hacked, we would have won the game.
Nothing pisses me off more than losing because of teammates being idiots. Either PTFO or play Ambush. But... but... there's no points in counter-hacking, man! Clearly it's not an action with any tactical significance if it don't award you no points. No points, no point. I forgot to mention that! As soon as the objective went red, OP hacked. All. Three. Times. So he did his job then since it takes 4times as long to rehack If there is any possibility of resecuring you should try to resecure. Even if you hack it right after it turns you've made your side lose DPS against the enemy MCC for a minute while their side gains DPS towards your own. The difference between resecuring and hacking the moment it turns red is massive... and it's the wrong one which gets rewarded.
Exactly. It was a close game the whole time on objectives, so there is no doubt in my mind that had he counter hacked even one if the objectives, we would have won the game. |
DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.20 18:57:00 -
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OSGR Valdez wrote:DS 10 wrote:Lol.
I'd like to say that this guy wasn't playing the objective at all. I was on the roof. Cool. I was also taking out dropships, 3 tanks, LAVs and defending both outside objectives. Without me there, tanks would have been all over and their guys would be on the roof. Tell me. Who would you rather on the roof?
My issue with you is I would kill the hacker of the objective with you right there. No one else was ever around. Did you ever counter hack? No. That happened three times. We lost by a few ticks and we had a 50 clone lead. If you had counter hacked, we would have won the game.
Nothing pisses me off more than losing because of teammates being idiots. Either PTFO or play Ambush. You can't get angry at someone for not doing something you didn't do yourself. I could kill 50 people in a match but if i didn't hack a letter then i can't get angry at someone for not doing the same. Regardless of how much i did for the team.
I was about 100m away from both objectives. By the time I got to the objectives, remember I'm a heavy, it would have been too late for me to counterhack. |
DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.20 19:01:00 -
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Mr Giberty Flibt wrote:So now that he has given his side of the story how about mine?
I was expected to on faith trust a guy I have no comms with to protect me while I broadcast my position to EVERY person on the map. While he couldn't even stop them from hacking it in the first place.
I was using a std scram rifle while in a std suit and was on the alternate skim junction map were C is next to a CRU and supply depot and A is near the tower everyone likes to fly dropships on top of. There is no medium range in those cases only close. I was NOT going to sit there for a counter hack's amount of time not looking for ambushes.
You were expected to play the objective. Stop making excuses. It was "too dangerous" to counter hack, yet it was perfectly okay when the objective flipped? I call BS on that. Admit that you didn't care about the win and you were playing solely for your own WP gain.
I really wish I was recording so everyone could see why I got so pissed. You would be less than 10m away from the objective with no one around and just wait. Once it flipped red, you'd hack. It was ridiculous. Go play Ambush, kid. Leave objective games to those who play objectives.
And as I said before, I was taking out multiple vehicles and providing support to my squad as well as trying to cover objectives. You act like I was just sitting up top not doing anything. You're the one that BS'ed 3 hacks and still ended up on the bottom half of the scoreboard. |
DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.20 20:14:00 -
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martinofski wrote:Lol DS 10. It's a game you know. He can do what ever he want. Like you do anything you want with your forge
You might have help killing tanks, DS and whatever, but blaming a guy hacking after points turned red in a PUBLIC match is just too.
Tell me I am not right when I say 95% of people playing this are playing for their own stats. Everyone looking to get WP, SP and ISK....it's the only goal in that game.
Who know, maybe you are looking to boost your Win/lose ratio yourself and raged because you lost 0.01...
There is 16 guys in that team, you blame the one you see hacking 30 seconds too late to gain the few point he can while in militia gear while we all know people get raped when they start? Not sure what is really killing this game seriously.
You got one thing right. I play to win the game. I don't see why you would play to do anything other than win. The fact remains that the game was lost because OP didn't counter hack. If he would have done so, we would have won. If you play with me, you'll see that I am all about winning. I get frustrated when I get on bad teams. I get even more frustrated when my squad is carrying the team, and one person puts his stats over the team. Either PTFO or go play Ambush. |
DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.20 21:01:00 -
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Mr Giberty Flibt wrote:DS 10 wrote:
And as I said before, I was taking out multiple vehicles and providing support to my squad as well as trying to cover objectives. You act like I was just sitting up top not doing anything. You're the one that BS'ed 3 hacks and still ended up on the bottom half of the scoreboard.
Because the six man squad tends to take up a lot of points and kills. I met only 5 of our teammates throughout the entire match. Also I would have ended up LOWER on the scoreboard if I had counter hacked would I not? And since when is 7th the lower half of the scoreboard?
That's why I said it. You would have had like 400 WP if you didn't get the 300 from the hacks. Useless.
And blaming a squad for ranking means nothing to me. VD and I go into games with just us two and get 1-2 nearly every time. You know how? By playing the objectives. Stop using other people as an excuse. You don't PTFO. You don't get WP unless you actively milk objectives. And don't use your suit as an excuse. I have a 5 mil SP character that top 5s every game. |
DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.20 21:06:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:DS 10 wrote:Mr Giberty Flibt wrote:So now that he has given his side of the story how about mine?
I was expected to on faith trust a guy I have no comms with to protect me while I broadcast my position to EVERY person on the map. While he couldn't even stop them from hacking it in the first place.
I was using a std scram rifle while in a std suit and was on the alternate skim junction map were C is next to a CRU and supply depot and A is near the tower everyone likes to fly dropships on top of. There is no medium range in those cases only close. I was NOT going to sit there for a counter hack's amount of time not looking for ambushes. You were expected to play the objective. Stop making excuses. It was "too dangerous" to counter hack, yet it was perfectly okay when the objective flipped? I call BS on that. Admit that you didn't care about the win and you were playing solely for your own WP gain. I really wish I was recording so everyone could see why I got so pissed. You would be less than 10m away from the objective with no one around and just wait. Once it flipped red, you'd hack. It was ridiculous. Go play Ambush, kid. Leave objective games to those who play objectives. And as I said before, I was taking out multiple vehicles and providing support to my squad as well as trying to cover objectives. You act like I was just sitting up top not doing anything. You're the one that BS'ed 3 hacks and still ended up on the bottom half of the scoreboard. I can admit that at one time I neglected to hack an objective for the sole purpose of causing hell to my targets as I stabbed them repeatedly in the back and face as they were spawning in. Ten kills later, my fellow blueberries (who I didn't even coordinate with AT ALL) came in and took the objective for me. In a way, I was helping my team by keeping the enemy distracted while my team came in to hack. It was glorious! https://plus.google.com/photos?pid=5913968724236670050&oid=109956220065876189966
Your case is extremely different. There was literally no one around the entire time. Even if there was someone, I would have taken them out. |
DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.20 21:37:00 -
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Mr Giberty Flibt wrote:Wow, I have never seen someone so pissed at a game. No wonder trolls love it so much...
But seriously dude its a GAME, you can play your way and I will play mine. I don't give a **** about win/loss, I'm here for the Isk, sp, and right to say that I was there even when dust was in its current state. Besides this guy doesn't even have 2mil sp yet and I will say again:
"If you couldn't stop them in the time it took to hack it, how was I to trust you to stop them from killing me?"
Sorry but I have severe trust issues with people who I can't talk to or the other way around. I have every right to blame you as much for this loss as you do me, you may have stopped the tanks, but you could have come down any time you chose.
If you really think a FGer is better use on the ground than high up, you really should learn more about Dust. Why come down if I'm doing well at my job? People complain about FGs v infantry, so why is it bad that I put myself in position to counter any and all vehicles as well as objectives? You also must have missed the multiple enemies trying to take my position which would have been brutal for our team. My job is over the top support. Your job is to hack when you're near the objective. |
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